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2009-06-02T21:41:05.591-07:00

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Walking bass occurs everywhere in rock. Basim as a...

2009-06-02T19:52:01.189-07:00

Walking bass occurs everywhere in rock. Basim as a bassist can really talk about it (probably better than me) but a good start is the Rockin' Bones (or loud fast and out of control ) box set(s) from Rhino records, listen to Link Wray's "Rumble" or Bang bang by Janis and her boyfriends Shakin' all over by Johnny Kid and the Pirates Listen to the first half of Elvis: 30 #1 hits in his Rockabilly stage.

the problem with the early stuff is while there are walking basslines all over the place it was taken for granted and the guitar was the star so it's way in the back so some songs it's hard to hear, but its there

There is a crazy amount of walking bassline, least subtile is Jailhouse Rock but try Heartbreak hotel, all Shook up, hound dog, don't be cruel,
Journey
there is one of the first rock songs ever written rocket 88 by jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats which has a clear walkJng bassline

Basim cited Rancid's to the east bay, which Basim cites as special because it's all chromatic yet still a walking bassline. also try Rancid's old friend, I think i got into that song cause of the walk, I probably got into rockabilly because of it. I've always loved moving pronounced bas. I think even Bauhau's Hollow Hills is even a walking bassline, though it doesn't quite stay on the 8th note, so perhaps not. ( i just know most bands with pronounced bass these days tend to use walking basslines and Bauhaus certainly does have pronounced bass) I don't want to sound like i don't know what I'm talking about so I don't think they stick to walking basslines but there is certainly a danceable 8th note but cheating, rhythm in there at times. I guess When there is a funk influence it's not really a walking bassline. Social Distortion really has a big walking bassline feel on story of my life but it's sort of played not quite, you may break your feet walking to it, but it certainly has a walking feel. and Prison bound really has that 8th note feel although there is a repetitive progression that isn't quite.

If Modern Punk has walking basslines they alter them a bit, if they didn't it would probably sound quite retro, Psychobilly is a whole punk genre who thrive off walking basslines, pick up the Meteors in Heaven or listen to Carling Black Label by the Coffin Nails or Zombie Noise by the Meteors try anything off of "Wrecking Crew" to Sling Shot by rev Horton Heat, not all songs keep walking basslines throughout but they certainly use them, you can also find allot of walking bassline guitar licks especially in early cramps where they had 2 guitars and no bass the most obvious is rock on the moon, but or some of their latter day like Haulass Hyena or eyeball in my Martini. give some of my suggestions and tell me if you disagree, you may but also it's punk, don't expect the musicianship to be spot on, the walk could really be in spirit even if its not 100% there.

I've taken the walking bassline for granted and as a given for so long I honestly can't think of a reading,

try the straightforward wikipedia article on walking basslines, and for Jazz's sake try the Dead Kennedy's "We've got a bigger problem now"

I look forward from hearing some input.

I finally got the words from Arjun that clarify A ...

2009-06-01T08:41:13.814-07:00

I finally got the words from Arjun that clarify A + K's identity. I will revise the post shortly.

Thanks for your information about the use of walking bass in early rock musical genres. I'd be curious to read more about that. If you think of any particular readings or songs that I should check out, please let me know!

Thanks, James.

Hmmm. From a musicologist point of view perhaps w...

2009-05-24T15:12:44.557-07:00

Hmmm. From a musicologist point of view perhaps walking basslines are specifically a jazz thing. But I understood walking basslines to be used in some early rockabilly and rock 'n roll (or if not walking, a specific bassline you could strut to.) also Basim does incorporate jazz into his playing, perhaps not as much with the Kominas as his last band Malice in Leatherland) where he specifically would announce before one of his songs (Cherub in a Jar) that "this is a latin Jazz song" and he played a fretless because he was influenced by Jaco, and Black Sabbath (where those guys claim allot of personal influence from Jazz). so it may not be the most technically accurate wording, but it's hard to think of a music term being relegated to a genere as music a whole should transcend. But it may have been me being picky, I felt kinda picky when writing that. However, putting walking in quotes seemed strange like there was a point being missed.

If a walking bassline is used in punk, than it could be because of early 50's rockabilly usage which does show up in whatever punk is supposed to be (as it was really just a scene reviving an independent, give music back to the kids and people scene, which of corse now somehow ends up as a specific kind of music.

I'm not trying to be picky about genres, early rock 'n roll and punk are only subgeneres in the limited sense that its all in the rock music camp but really I think of a sub genre as splitting hairs on punk, or metal or something, as usually those kinds of music make them self (while still being rock music, (sort of) pretty distinct and not having much to do with other camps in their overhead genre, this is mostly because of scenes, metalheads and punks don't always hang out together, nor pscyhobillies and goths. So if music is written with an intent to fit into a scene it ends up being rather homogenously distinct.

I think there is allot of confusion between how people identify their lifestyle and what kind of music they claim loyalty to (a silly thing to begin with) but punk should have never been labeled a type of music I think it should have been used to define a group of people who perhaps happened to listen to music or may put on shows. But that's like me arguing Tausaug music should be separated from a group of people. But I'm digressing...

Hi James, Thanks for your comment. Re: Arjun and...

2009-05-21T10:47:54.320-07:00

Hi James, Thanks for your comment.

Re: Arjun and Karna's identity. This was what Arjun told me that in the interview. Maybe the thing to do is to put Hindu Bengali in quotations. I will fix that once I get a confirmation from them.

I just thought that what Basim does is arpeggiated chordal notes, not really using many passing tones or other notes from the melody or scale. [anyway, this is probably an unnecessary distinction.]

I usually associate walking bassline with jazz. At least this is what i learned from the musicologists. Sigh - I'm sure this is an academic jazz-centric perspective. The term "walking bass" has probably departed from its usage in jazz. Is it used in much punk or ska? If so, what kind? What kind music were you thinking of as being Basim's influences? I'm sure it's beyond my limited knowledge about the fine distinctions between subgenres. So please inform!

I'm sure there will be another chance to meet. Thanks again for your comment!

just wanted to add some input form reading the art...

2009-05-21T09:52:16.891-07:00

just wanted to add some input form reading the article.

Arjun and Karna are not Hindu nor are either of their parents. SO you may want to edit that. Also a walking bassline is a commonly known term in the music Basim is influenced by so it probably doesn't need to be put in quotations.

I think the Kominas were always trying to be a punk band and not because of controversy in the music. The controversy could have been because punk may write direct attack in music against ideas or people they don't like, sometimes out of anger which the Kominas have done. Plus if looks mean anything Basim's had the 'hawk since before the band.

too bad I didn't get to meet you at the Kominas basement show, I was supposed to be there.

2009-05-21T09:50:22.742-07:00

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